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For the first time ever, I sat and watched the first part of The View this morning. The "hot topic" was where Obama's children should attend school. Which I really could care less about. However, "Joy" went off about how home schooled children are "sheltered" and have no contact with other kids. Elizabeth spoke up, and tried to squash Joy's comment about how home schooled children are no different than regular children that attend "brick and mortar" schools.
I now and never will have any respect for The View, or for Joy. It's OK to have an opinion about something that you know actual facts about.
I suggest she does some research about her topics, before she spews something out of her mouth, that makes her look more annoying then she all ready is!
Shame on you "The View" for letting Joy make fun of home schooled children.
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Nov 17, 2008 12:13 PM
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I never understood the concept of home-schooling. No offense. Why would people opt to teach their children at home? Isn't it better for the development of a child if he/she is in classroom with other kids? Together learning, friendships that may last a life-time develop..
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Nov 17, 2008 1:20 PM
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Hello.....I taught for 27 years in the public school system of a very large city. Special education. I love innercity kids.
Home schooling can be very successful if it is organized and follows a well-crafted curriculum. There are some home-schooling co-ops that are just cool beyond imagination.....field trips and co-operative learning and all that. There is one I know of where about 20 students participate with different parents attacking specific skills.
Public schools are - well - underfunded and overcrowded and crazy - especially at the middle school level. Especially with "No Child Left Behind" in place - sort of. NCLB is way underfunded and just a pretty nutty concept to begin with.
And......I don't care where Obama sends his kids to school. Do Not Care.
Thanks for posting this, Michelle. I feel the very same way about The View. Yuck.
Zia
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Nov 17, 2008 3:43 PM
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...field trips and co-operative learning and all that. There is one I know of where about 20 students participate with different parents attacking specific skills...
Similiar to Montessori or Waldorf-schooling?
I went to school with somone who switched to public school after being schooled the Waldorf-way for 6 years. She was a nice girl but had a lot of troubles to fit in.
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Nov 17, 2008 4:02 PM
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Belle....you are absolutely right. Home schooled children do have a bit of a problem socializing at first - at least Most of them. But....usually they come around. Really, that is what public schools are for....learning how to fit in, learning how to meet deadlines, figuring out how to get along in large groups, sharing toys and supplies, competition, respecting authority. If you gave every student in the country a book and a teacher's guide, they could teach themselves. And pretty well, too. It is just all in the way learning is approached. I have seen kids with mothers and fathers who say, "Oh, we home school our children," and don't. No guidance. So, there you go.....any system can fail.
Zia
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Nov 17, 2008 4:30 PM
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Fair enough.
Personally, I know that I get more done learningwise if I have a very tight structure . I get less done if I can chose when and what I learn and how much.
But I have to admit, I have met people who went to Montessori/Waldorf-schools and did very well at Universities/High-schools.
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Nov 17, 2008 4:40 PM
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I always felt that the kids needed socialization that schools gave. But serious home school, do you know that home school children test higher than most"go to school" children. My neighbor has 5 children and she home schools every other yr. It seems to have worked out well for her. My own children are not home schooled. They learn better from someone else. But to those who can manage to teach their own children, I say good for you. My children learn a lot of things that I'm not always sure I ready or that their ready for them to learn. From School!!! If my kids ask, I tell them the truth. So sometimes I wish there was a little less graphic conversations going on. My children are 7 and 10.
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Nov 18, 2008 9:17 AM
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Good point. If done properly, home schooling is indeed a good thing. And it is a lot of hard work. You are correct on advanced levels achieved in this environment. But.....testing isn't everything.
Zia
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Nov 18, 2008 9:57 AM
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Good vs. Evil
Right now in America there is a war taking place. We do not see or hear rockets or bombs going off, but there are battles being fought just the same. Which side are you going to align yourself with. Evil people are trying to win you over to their ranks,
Good and kind people want you to join with them.
Ms. Joy Behar would love to have you join with her in condemning, normal, bright, well mannered, fathers and mothers and home schooled children as being evil. I think she call them “demented.”
If we had caring parents, when we were growing up, they taught us to choose our friends carefully. Do not hang out with bad people, etc. And most of us still do that as grown-ups. Obviously, Ms. Behar did not have that advantage.
But, even with poor up bringing, humans have a built in knowledge of what is good and what is evil. You don’t believe it ? I could explain it to you, but you can find the reason for this in the first book of the Bible.
Ms. Behar thinks that H. S. Children are “demented” because they shy away from of children who wear rings in their noses, in their navels, in their lips, and other weird places. Or because they shy away from people with tattoos on their bodies. Or if they don’t want to be around kids that wear their pants too low.
You can join with “Evil” and with Ms. Behar, and hate these well mannered children if you wish. But I am going to join the “Good” side.
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Nov 21, 2008 3:07 PM
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I had MUCH more to say on this topic in my post "BEHAR is an alcoholic and brawler".
(I am a 2 finger typist and have to look at the keys so please forgive errors. I just don't want to waste time correcting.)
However I want to address the long time teacher's remarks. Our 1st child was a foster daughter over 25 years ago. She was very very troubled and so we decide to home school her. She was readinf whole words at barley 3 and ended up with a full ride scholarship to Wash U (the #1 hardest school to get into in the US). We did this by my wife (1 year college) buying old texts from yard sales and making her own curriculum as she went.
Now our natural 4 use a purchased course and do about as well.
The simple and easily proved truth is that it is far far easier to teach a kid away from a room full of kids the same age. That social setting is completely un natural ajnd not seen anywhere else in history. America became great from the products of hoe, self, and one room schooling. These structures all mimic the family. There are different ages present. There is a pecking order. Respect and cooperation are natural. Put 30 kids the same age into a single room and the most rebellious, or loud become the model to follow. Then add the complete stupidity of taking away corporal punishment. Yeah it tool the kids about 30 minutes after that was the new rule to figure out that they were in charge now.
We have been in to home schooling groups. The worst examples of home schooling we have seen are still above the average public schooled kids. I am sure they are out here but I have never ever even heard of a home school kid who cold not read and write cogently by age 10. I'll bet 50% of your inner city kids can't do that when (if) they graduate HS. There is a reason a huge number of CHI teachers put their kids any place but public schools.
If you love them you'll give up your job and live on just the hubbies salary ans teach them at home. You just can not believe how much happier they will be, not to mention how much smarter.
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Nov 24, 2008 11:25 PM
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I have alot of respect for parents who home school their kids. It takes alot of patience doing that. I on the other hand will never home school my kids. I don't want my children's education screwed up because I decided to home school them.
I would also like to add that these kids that Im not going to home school...are my future kids. I don't have none just yet.
Also has anyone heard of unschooling their kids? I remember on a Dr. Phil episode that talked about home school kids vs. public/private school kids some people. And the subject was brought up about how parents don't home school or put their kids into a school at all. One parent even said that their kids will be much smarter than the schooled kids. I highly doubt that. If those parents who unschool their kids, wants dumb kids thats fine by me.
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Nov 26, 2008 1:07 AM
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